BYEOS & Astrotortilla

[NW_Sky]

Since updating to BYEOS 3.1.5, AT and BYEOS are "out of sync".  AT is able to connect to BYEOS and the first image from BYEOS is plate solved, the mount then syncs and re-centers. (I have "sync scope", "re-center", and "repeat until  within" . . . all check marked it AT)  This is where things go astray.  AT isn't waiting long enough for BYEOS to take the next image.  It appears AT tells BYEOS to take the next image but before the image can download, it starts plate solving the first image again.  While it is performing this second plate solve, BYEOS downloads the second image. Since AT thinks the mount is still where it was to begin with, it syncs and re-centers, and then starts plate solving the second image, (which is not where the mount is really pointing).

 

When I updated to the new BYEOS version, I did not delete the old version (I have since uninstalled the old version).  Could there be an old config file somewhere I need to delete?  Or is there something else I need to do to get AT and BYEOS to communicate correctly?  I've tried changing the port number but get the same behavior.  Thanks in advance for assistance.

[admin]

Yes, try 3.1.5 again and send me both log files.  Looks like I may have broke something in 3.1.5

 

Regards,

[AaronSmall]

Guylain,

 

Anything new on this topic?  It has me scared for this coming weekend that BYE and AT won't work together (assuming it stays clear in the forecast  ).

 

Aaron

[admin]

Nothing aside that you found a bug in 3.1.5.

 

Use 3.1.4 where you indicated it working properly.  3.1.5 was the first time I changed the API since the first integration with AT so stick with what works, 3.1.4

 

Regards,

[astroman133]

Astro Tortilla supports the Open File Dialog option which is more manual, but works just fine.  Here is how it works.

 

Choose the Open File Dialog as your camera.

Start the plate solve. AT will pop up a Windows Open File dialog. Browse to your BYE Download folder.

Now in BYE confirm that the 'Save Snap Images' option on the Settings dialog is checked.

Now in BYE go to Frame & Focus and set the shooting parameters (shutter, ISO, etc.).

Click on 'Snap Image'. BYE will snap a picture and put it into the download folder or a subfolder.

Make sure that AT's Open File Dialog is looking at the same folder and select the image file.

 

It is not as convenient as the use of interprocess communication to automate it, but it does work.

[Lammertus]

I am not sure but I also have versión 3.1.5 installed.

Last time I went out I used AT and it worked.

Sometimes it just drops out but that behaviour I have seen with

all versions of BYE so that belongs to AT.

Now I am not sure if I worked with 3.1.5 or with 3.1.4 but after

Reading this thread I tried to open versión 3.1.4 and it asked to

confirm my fingerprint, whereas versión 3.1.5 just started as always.

 

Would that imply that I used versión 3.1.5 with AT and/or how can I check.

In the fits header there is no reference to the versión of BYE used.

 

Best regards,

Mert

[admin]

The fingerprint thingy is because I have made a minor change to the trial verification keys and that change required than all keys be revalidated in 3.1.5 and in 3.1.4 if you start it after 3.1.5 has been installed.  No harm done, just revalidated your key and you're back in the saddle.

 

Thanks. 

[astroman133]

Fits header? BYE creates JPG files for AT, not FITS files.  Do you mean in the EXIF data of the JPG image? I do not believe that BYE modifies the EXIF data for images that are requested for AstroTortilla.

[admin]

Absolutely no changes are made in image files provided via the AT integration.  These image files are as-is coming out of the camera.

 

This integration aims at providing images for the purpose of plate solving without any overburden on the BYE side... so the exif data (it is not called fits header in the dslr world) is not read and is not modified at all.

 

Regards,

[Lammertus]

Ok I'm sorry for my mistake.

So if I understand all this correctly, in the exif data would be some

sort of identification of the imaging program, BYE in this case

 

How can I read this data to check with which versión of BYE I as working.

Ok, justsaw how to read this, with Canon Digital Photo Professional.

Unfortunately, here is only info on the image, not on the capture program.

Thanks for shining light on my doubts, was just trying to help a bit

Mert

[admin]

In BYE you need to click the "rubik's cube" icon while your image is displayed.

 

The information about the capture program is something BYE does, not all program does it.  For BYE to add this data you need the "SKIP Exif Write" setting in BYE's Advance settings windows to be unckeck at time of acquisition.

 

Regards, 

[nlskies]

FWIW - I have been running 3.1.5 for a while (with Canon 6D). Integration with AT works same as before for me (most times works fine, occasionally there is a hiccup where it never seems to "get there" after many iterations of "Repeat until within").

 

Can't imagine being without either AT or BYEOS  :=)

 

 

Dave

[admin]

No need to delete the old version of BYE before installing.

 

Although your description is complete, we need to more information on your setup.

 

What version of BYE are you using?

What version of AT are you using?

What camera model do you have?

 

Did it work with a previous version of BYE?

 

Do you have mirror lock enabled on your camera?

Do you have in-camera noise reduction enabled?

 

Regards,

[NW_Sky]

Guylain, 

 

I am using BYE version 3.1.5.  

AT version .7

My camera is a T3i. 

 

I don't use mirror lock or in-camera nr.  

 

AT and BYE worked perfectly together before the BYE update.     

[astroman133]

What version of BYE did you update from?

[NW_Sky]

I am not certain of the previous version, but it would have been what was current in September 2014. 

 

I just checked Windows Task Manager (Applications tab) and I have two instances of O'Telescope BackgroundWorker Console running.  Also, two O'Telescope BackgroundWorker.Start.exe listed on the Processes tab.  Is that normal?

[admin]

Try with 3.1.4 and/or 3.1.3.  I did change the API in 3.1.5 to support TheSkyX.

 

I wonder if I messed the STATUS command.  I don't think I did but if 3.1.4 or 3.1.3 do work then I did mess something up for sure

 

Please report your findings.

 

Regards,

[NW_Sky]

Guylain, I will give 3.1.4 a try and report back.  I appreciate your quick response and excellent customer service!

[NW_Sky]

I installed 3.1.4.  I tried to connect to the camera and nothing happened.  I clicked on Settings and now get "Unhandled exception has occurred . . . object reference not set to an instance of an object" error.  I uninstalled BYE, and then deleted the Backyard EOSv3.1 folder under Program Files and installed 3.1.4 again.  I continue to get the Unhandled exception error.  

 

I also tried a new USB cable from the camera to the hub.  

 

Is it possible to start from scratch?  What do I have to uninstall/fix to start fresh?

[admin]

Just install in a new folder.  This is the -best- start from scratch install method.

 

Regards,

[NW_Sky]

Guylain,  

 

BYE 3.1.4 and AT play nice with each other.  AT waits for the second image to download before starting its next plate solve.

 

Would you like me to test 3.1.5 again? or do you have enough info to proceed?

 

Thanks again for your help!