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No. Forget BYE for the moment and forget dithering for now. Concentrate on guiding and for this you need PHD only. Get confortable with this first. Keep it simple and only takle one new item at a time. Once you are confortable with guiding and you got this going then and only then you should introduce dithering.... and this is where BYE will come in handy. So for now forget BYE and forget dithering. Focon only on guiding with PHD and to keep things simple I would use the ST4 cable so start with. Hope this helps.
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Many thanks Rick, much appreciated.
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Graham, There is a lot of misunderstanding to clear up. I hope this helps. In BYN, you select what application BYN needs to communicate with to initiate dithering between exposures. In your case that is PHD (not ASCOM). This tells BYN how to dither between exposures. In PHD, on the Connect dialog, you choose how to talk to the mount. In your case that would be either an ASCOM driver or the On-camera setting. For you I would assume that you have the EQASCOM driver installed to expose your mount to ASCOM through EQMOD. So this is one mount connection option. The other option On-camera would be used when you have the ST-4 cable plugged into the guide camera and the autoguide port on the mount. I do not agree that guiding via ASCOM is better than guiding via ST4. They are both fairly equivalent. Choosing On-camera as the guiding method in PHD means that the camera is actually controlling the adjustment pulses, rather than the PC when you choose an ASCOM connection. However, as Guylain said, you do need the extra cable to connect from the guide camera to the autoguide port on the mount. BYN offers 3 choices for dithering (PHD, Metaguide, and ASCOM). Note that these are for dithering, not guiding. So you misunderstood when you thought that since you want to guide your mount via ASCOM that you should choose ASCOM in BYN. If you are running PHD for guiding then you must choose PHD as BYN's Dither Provider. Even though you will not be using direct ASCOM dithering, I will describe what it does. When you choose ASCOM as your Dither Provider in BYN you are saying that you are NOT GUIDING but that you want BYN to dither the mount directly through ASCOM. In order to use ASCOM dithering with BYN, you must have the premium license and BYN must be manually connected to the mount via the ASCOM Telescope panel before you start imaging. For this reason the Dither TEST button is disabled when ASCOM is selected as the Dither Provider. BYN does not automatically start PHD. You need to start PHD, connect PHD devices, calibrate PHD guiding, and start guiding. Then you can connect BYN with PHD.
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Thanks for the reply. I would use dithering within PHD. I understand that BYN is just for capture but it obviously connects to and uses PHD. I assume from your reply that I need to just select ASCOM rather than PHD then?
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You are trying to guide only for now, not dither, correct? If this is the case BYE is irrelevant. BYE does not guide. These are 2 methods of guiding, ST4 and pulse guiding via ASCOM. You need to pick one. The advantage of pulse guiding over ST4 is that you have one less physical cable... this is pretty much it. You seem to be at the start of your astro journey. Keep it simple. Use the ST4 cable to start and understand the basic process of guiding first. Hope this helps.
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My first question to the forum so hope someone can assist. I have searched previous threads but cannot see one that answers my specific query. Forgive me if I missed one though. I have set up BYN with my D7100. I have PHD software for guiding BUT I control the mount and the camera via EQMod and BYN respectively with a USB connection to my laptop in my shed. The guide camera is connected via USB NOT ST4. Stupid question perhaps but in guiding settings for BYN do I select PHD or ASCOM? I assume PHD should only be selected if using the ST4 cable and that ASCOM should be selected in my situation. In the later do I need to open PHD manually or will BYN still recognise PHD and use it. I ask as the "TEST" button is shaded out if I select ASCOM. I understand that ASCOM\USB guiding is considered preferable to ST4. I am using Carte de Ciel for my Planetarium programme. Any help would be much appreciated. Many thanks.
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Login to the website with your account and download from the website directly. The download link is in the top menu bar https://www.otelescope.com/files/ Your key is in "My Purchases -> Orders". Also in the top menu bar. https://www.otelescope.com/clients/orders/ Regards,
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Thank you.
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OK, so if your username and password are for the same account as you used when you purchased your Premium BYE license then you should be able to log onto the site and see the license key in the My Purchases area of your profile (via the username dropdown list at the upper right of this page). Also I have to explain something...You do not download the Premium Edition of BYE...You download BYE 3.1.16 (the latest released version) and then you apply the Premium license key and your username (as the Identifier). This permanently activates all the features of the Premium license. Also at the top of this page is a Downloads tab. You get BYE 3.1.16 onto your new laptop by clicking on that tab, and selecting BYE 3.1.16 for download. Once you have downloaded and installed BYE, launch it from the shortcut, click on the padlock button at the right hand end of the title bar, paste in your license key and enter the username that you are logged in under (NOT your email address). Come to think of it, since BYE does not yet have any license. It may prompt you for the key and identifier right after it comes up.
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I had to replace my laptop hard drive and need to re-download BYEOS Premium Edition that I purchased in 2016. How do I do this? My user name and new password seem to work.....tedabney@aol.com
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BackyardEOS 3.1
MARTIN.DOURLENS replied to MARTIN.DOURLENS's question in BackyardEOS et BackyardNIKON (français)
Bonjour Après différents choix de dossiers dans C : dans D : etc… Enfin, je retrouve mes photos et vidéos Tout se trouve dans un dossier que j’ai créé sur le D : dans BackyardTEMP folder le logiciel a de lui-même créé un sous-dossier qu’il nomme Download et tout se trouve dedans Par contre dans Répertoire des images et Répertoire des plans tout est vide Je n’ai pas vraiment compris ce qui se passe, mais le principal c’est d’avoir tout retrouvé Cordialement -
REQUIRES INTERNET .... I am connected, How do i tell BYE i am connected?
admin replied to DJRockinRob's question in BackyardEOS
Yep, trials keys will only work work with the release. Glad you figured it out. -
REQUIRES INTERNET .... I am connected, How do i tell BYE i am connected?
astroman133 replied to DJRockinRob's question in BackyardEOS
I am not sure why you would be installing an out-of-date version of BYE with a current Trial license. But the problem was probably that between 3.1.9 and 3.1.16 the owners switched to a new license server and after a while, the old license server was decommissioned. I would suggest that you purchase a Classic or Premium license before you head off to your dark sky site. This is because the Trial license requires internet access to validate that the trial period has not expired. This occurs every time that BYE, with a Trial license, is started up. This check does not happen once you have validated your paid license. -
REQUIRES INTERNET .... I am connected, How do i tell BYE i am connected?
DJRockinRob replied to DJRockinRob's question in BackyardEOS
Well, Looks like i figured it out! I uninstalled 3.1.9 and installed 3.1.16.... I am up and running :-) -
REQUIRES INTERNET .... I am connected, How do i tell BYE i am connected?
DJRockinRob posted a question in BackyardEOS
Hello, I am preparing for my first trip to dark skys. I would like to test BYE before i leave (in about 1 week). I have a trial code and tried to activate the trial but I can not get past activation. To ensure that i did not mistype anything, I copied and pasted the information. Did i miss something? Am I doing something Wrong? Thank you for your help. Hope to hear from you soon :-) Robert Spera aka DJRockinRob -
BackyardEOS 3.1
admin replied to MARTIN.DOURLENS's question in BackyardEOS et BackyardNIKON (français)
C'est sans doute une permission dans Windows. Assure toi d'avoir tous les permissions pour le répertoire BackyardTEMP. (voir la fenêtre de paramétré pour son emplacement). -
Bonjour Je viens d'acheter et d 'installer sur mon ordinateur portable le logiciel BackyardEOS 3.1 premium. Aucun problème à l'installation, mais lors des essais il m'est impossible d'enregistrer une photo ou une vidéo. Tout se fait correctement mais il n'y a aucun enregistrement sur mon disque dur. J'ai windows 10 dernière version mise à jour au mois de juin 2018. Le même logiciel a été téléchargé sur l'ordinateur de mon épouse avec succès. Tout fonctionne très bien ; mais avec windows 7. On a bien les fichiers enregistrés sur disque dur. Y aurait-il un problème avec windows 10 ? Merci de bien vouloir me donner la marche à suivre pour réparer. Mon identificateur est MARTIN.DOURLENS mon adresse mail est yt.martin@orange.fr Bien cordialement
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Thank you, astroman, for the quick and accurate response! BYE is now running on my new laptop! Wayne
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For your version of BYE, you were responsible for maintaining your 5-line key. If you lost or misplaced it you may be forced to purchase another key. With the release of BYE 3.1.0 and the domain name change to O'Telescope, your key is now maintained on the O'Telescope web site. It is always accessible to you when you log onto the site with the same username that was used to give you the license. So what you need to do is to convert your 5-line license into a new style 1-line license. To do that go to the BYE product page in the Store. Scroll down the page and click on the Upgrade tab. Then follow the instructions for using your old license to get a new one. There is no charge as long as you are not upgrading the license from Classic to Premium. BTW, although the web site domain changed, BYE is still written and supported by the original authors.
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I bought Backyard EOS Premium years ago from the original author, but my purchase does not show up under My Purchases. My old laptop no longer works. Unable to activate account on my new laptop ("License validation error! Key length invalid."). My old license key has five lines with close to 200 digits. The first line with five groups of five digits looks similar to the current license key format (which requires six groups). Can you assist? Thank you, Wayne Boline
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WELL THANKS. ALL WORKING NOW YOUR A STAR
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So, I am assuming that you have a valid license. You need to log onto the OTelescope web site using the same username as you used to get/purchase your license. Go to your My Purchases area and find the applicable license. Swipe across the license key and copy it to the clipboard. Note that the identifier is the case-sensitive username. Install BYN and launch it. Click on the padlock at the upper right and then select Edit License. Paste in the license key and enter your O'Telescope username (NOT your email address) as the identifier. You should be good to go. astroman133
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hI CAN ANYONE HELP .Updated my pc ,new HDD and window 10 .backyard Nikon not working reinstall backyard Nikon --License validation error key or Identifier error can anyone help? thanks Shaun
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Glad you found an alternative... gremlins
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Okay. Success, but no answers, really. I finally tested everything ON ANOTHER LAPTOP. Same camera, same USB cable, same BYE settings...and it works perfectly. So I've taken control of my wife's old Acer i3 (which was just sitting around, anyway) as my new capture computer. I'll still process on a faster machine, but now I can run full capture plans. Obviously, something on my everyday, do-everything laptop was screwing up BYE. We'll never know what, exactly. Thank you for sticking with this issue!
