Canon 7D Mk Ii Problem

[Ron Hillstromb]

Hello Guylian and all

 

  Happy new year to all.

 

  I did get a Canon 7D Mk II for Christmas.  I have attached it to the computer and BYEOS.  I am having a few problems which may or may not be a Bug in BYE using a Surface Pro with Win 8.1.

 

  1.  When I have the Compact Flash and Secure Data Cards set up to record RAW and jpg images in separate cards I only get either jpg or RAW recorded in the computer folder and nothing on either of the camera cards.  When the system is set to 'Standard' Both jpg and RAW are saved to the computer folder.  This may be by design in the SDK.  I saw in the remote control part of EOS Utility that is said somewhere that RAW would be saved to the Computer and jpg would be saved to the camera card.

 

  2. When I go to Frame and Focus the file is changed to S1 or S3.  When I return to Imaging it does not change back to RAW + jpg.  Along with this when I disconnect and close down the program the camera is left in the S1 or S3 file size.  I believe it is S3.

 

  3.  When Long Exposure Noise Reduction is set the display  does not count down after counting up.  For Example if I set the duration to 10 seconds when the shutter is opened it counts up to 10.  When the shutter closes the number 10 remains in the display areas until the cycle is complete, probably 10 seconds later then the downloading begins.

 

  I am also losing files when I move the Planetary folder but this happens after BYE is closed so I think this is a Win 8.1 problem.

 

  I have not played extensively with the Mk II because I don't foresee using it very much in Astrophotography .  It will be used in my other photography interest.

 

  I have not tested it on my Win 7 platform much yet but will as I can find the time.

 

  Log files are attached.

 

  If you have any routines you would like for me to test let me know.

 

Ron

 

 

logfile-20150101-20h42m05s998-5732-2015-01-01.txt

logfile-20150101-20h42m13s660-backgroundworker-3888-2015-01-01.txt

[admin]

Hello Guylian and all

 

  Happy new year to all.

 

  I did get a Canon 7D Mk II for Christmas.  I have attached it to the computer and BYEOS.  I am having a few problems which may or may not be a Bug in BYE using a Surface Pro with Win 8.1.

 

  1.  When I have the Compact Flash and Secure Data Cards set up to record RAW and jpg images in separate cards I only get either jpg or RAW recorded in the computer folder and nothing on either of the camera cards.  When the system is set to 'Standard' Both jpg and RAW are saved to the computer folder.  This may be by design in the SDK.  I saw in the remote control part of EOS Utility that is said somewhere that RAW would be saved to the Computer and jpg would be saved to the camera card.

 

  2. When I go to Frame and Focus the file is changed to S1 or S3.  When I return to Imaging it does not change back to RAW + jpg.  Along with this when I disconnect and close down the program the camera is left in the S1 or S3 file size.  I believe it is S3.

 

  3.  When Long Exposure Noise Reduction is set the display  does not count down after counting up.  For Example if I set the duration to 10 seconds when the shutter is opened it counts up to 10.  When the shutter closes the number 10 remains in the display areas until the cycle is complete, probably 10 seconds later then the downloading begins.

 

  I am also losing files when I move the Planetary folder but this happens after BYE is closed so I think this is a Win 8.1 problem.

 

  I have not played extensively with the Mk II because I don't foresee using it very much in Astrophotography .  It will be used in my other photography interest.

 

  I have not tested it on my Win 7 platform much yet but will as I can find the time.

 

  Log files are attached.

 

  If you have any routines you would like for me to test let me know.

 

Ron

 

Hi Ron,

 

1) This is a limitation of the Canon SDK.  Any camera that has 2 cards only images destined for the first card can be downloaded via the SDK.  If you want both downloaded they must be set to card #1.

 

2) This is by design and not specific to the 7D Mk II.  RAW will be set back when you start an image capture session.  If you want BYE to leave the image quality alone you can go to Settings and set the image quality to "in-camera".

 

3) The fact that the display does not count down does not mean noise reduction did not work.  In fact it did work because the download did not start before 10 seconds  Try a longer exposure, say 30 seconds, did the download occurred 30 seconds after the exposure ended?  It probably will.

 

BYE does not delete files (ever) so if you are losing files it is an issue outside BYE.

 

Thank you for taking the 7D Mk II for a ride wit BYE 3.1

 

Regards,

[Ron Hillstromb]

Hello Guylain

 

  Thanks for the information about how the multi-card systems are treated in the SDK.

 

  After seeing the statement in EOS Utility I suspected it was a SDK rule.  And yes also the countdown did have a pause long enough for the NR to be accomplished.

 

  The 7D MkII is for other photographic interest and will not be used much for Astro-Photography.  When I get to a real Dark Sky I want to see how the 51,xxx ISO responds and if using it would be feasible.  I am doubtful after trials with the higher ISOs on the 60Da..

 

  Thanks again for the explanation.  I will continue to play with it at the dining room table when I get the chance.

 

Ron

[admin]

For NR countdown I simply do not register the correct property... I'm not sure which one

 

But you may be able to help.

 

1) Close BYE

2) Set the NR off using the camera menu

3) Start BYE and connect the camera.

4) Using the camera menu set NR on.  (be careful that this is the only setting you change)

5) Close BYE.

6) Send me the log file.

 

Step #4 should log the actual property code and I can use that to register the NR property in BYE and this should allow BYE to set the countdown.

 

Thank you for your help,

[Ron Hillstromb]

Hi Guylain

 

  Here ae the logs and I believe that I followed your instructions if not let me know.

 

Also I did this on my Win 7 machine..

 

  By the Way what is the time used on this site?  Seems to be UTC/GMT/Zulu.  The times of the posts are not near EST/CST or others.

 

Ron

logfile-20150102-08h43m31s776-7640-2015-01-02.txt

logfile-20150102-08h43m38s296-backgroundworker-7676-2015-01-02.txt

[admin]

Thanks Ron,

 

Thanks for the log file.

 

My times are accurate, you may have to set your time zone in your account profile

 

Regards

[s3igell]

The 7D MkII is for other photographic interest and will not be used much for Astro-Photography.  When I get to a real Dark Sky I want to see how the 51,xxx ISO responds and if using it would be feasible.  I am doubtful after trials with the higher ISOs on the 60Da.

 

You might be Very Pleasantly Surprised by the High ISO Capability of the 7DmkII.  While rather few owners of 7DmkII have posted on the AP Forums yet, the rather similar High ISO Prowess of the Sony A7s has their owners Raving about them.

We need to remember that the 7DmkII Sensor is a real departure from earlier ones that populated common 60D/60Da/550D/600D/650D and instead seems to merge the technology of the 6D (Sensitivity) and 70D (Dual Pixel).

[admin]

Hi Guylain

 

  Here ae the logs and I believe that I followed your instructions if not let me know.

 

Also I did this on my Win 7 machine..

 

  By the Way what is the time used on this site?  Seems to be UTC/GMT/Zulu.  The times of the posts are not near EST/CST or others.

 

Ron

 

Hi Ron,

 

Thanks for the log file... your did everything right but I did not get what I was hoping for in the logs.  I will have to dig a bit deeper in the SDK to figure out what property code is used for NR on the 7D Mk II.

 

Thanks,

[Ron Hillstromb]

  The 51.2k ISO was quite grainy in the couple of evening photos I took using it on Christmas Day.  I was busy with all kinds of toys and since that day and the following sunny day spent on the raod it has been wet and cloudyand taking pictures o9ut the back door got old quick.  I will experiment with it as I have with all of my cameras but I am expecting good things when I can get out in the woods and thickets taking photos of various wildlife forms. I have gotten good reports from a fellow wildlife photographer who is much better than me on the camera and I respect what he passes on.

 

  Guylain

 

  Sorry about that but if you need me to help you with the 7D Mk II and save a camera rental send your requests to me.  I will be on the road for a week beginning 15 Jan and  2 or3 weeks in February beginning sometime during the first week.

 

  For others who have the 7D Mk II:

 

One other thing I was told and I am finding out is that Canon seems to have modified their CR2 format.  Camera Raw and Pix Insight are handling the format but the native windows display software doesn't work with it.

 

Ron