EOS -Ra

[tmarsala]

Hello-

I have seen another discussion here about the EOS-R compatibility, but I never saw a resolution.  With the EOS -Ra just out, I am wondering if BYE is indeed compatible with the EOS-R?

Thank you!

Tom M

[astroman133]

Did you read this thread which is just below your post on the Backyard EOS main menu?

 

It asked the same question. The authors answered that it is supported in the latest BYE pre-release version.

The EOS-Ra (mentioned in the title of your post) will not be supported until Canon releases a version of the EOS SDK that includes support for that model. SDK releases are totally at Canon's discretion and may not occur for several months after a new camera model is available. For more information you should read the following post that is pinned near the top of the forum.

Typically, models are not added to the Support Grid until they are in a Release version of BYE.

[tmarsala]

Thank you for the reply!  I obviously missed that post (and hence the Paul Lorenz question) as the auto reply from the "contact us" link sent me to the forum home page to start a new question.

In any event, understood.

Regards,

Tom

(four-year member)

[admin]

Since I got the EOS-R to work it should be relatively easy/quick to release a version with the EOS-Ra support once Canon releases the SDK.

In the past it took Canon anywhere from 4 to 8 months to release the SDK once a new camera was released.  However, I found that in recent years that gap has shrunk to anywhere from 0 to 3 months on average.

Regards,

[s3igell]

As the sole reported differences between the EOS-R and EOS-Ra are a changed IR-Filter (exposing Sensor to 4x Ha) and a 30x LiveView Zoom (might be an issue for Frame&Focus), it might be that the EOS-Ra is already supported in the most recent SDK (or might self-identify as an EOS-R).

It would be worth trying to connect an EOS-Ra using BYE and check the Log (once any EOS-Ra are released to the Pubilc - Dec-Jan timeframe?).

 

[admin]

15 hours ago, s3igell said:

As the sole reported differences between the EOS-R and EOS-Ra are a changed IR-Filter (exposing Sensor to 4x Ha) and a 30x LiveView Zoom (might be an issue for Frame&Focus), it might be that the EOS-Ra is already supported in the most recent SDK (or might self-identify as an EOS-R).

It would be worth trying to connect an EOS-Ra using BYE and check the Log (once any EOS-Ra are released to the Pubilc - Dec-Jan timeframe?).

 

I might work, but Canon has a habit of identifying every model with a specific SDK model number and this is what I use to identify the models.  If Canon uses the same SDK internal number for both the R and Ra model then it will work, otherwise I'll have to register the new model number, recompile, and upload

 

[tmarsala]

Thank you s3igell and Guylain for your kind responses!  Guylain, your last post was my thought as well, but I just wanted to hear it from you!

R does not necessarily imply Ra. I will stick with my tried and true 6D for now...

And, thank you for all of your work in giving us BYE;  it has become just an extension of my right arm over the last four years in my work!

Kind regards,

Tom M

[mooneyeagle]

I can connect my EOS Ra using 3.1.18.  However, it will not image.  I can change paramaters on the camera but it wont take an image.  Is this because the Ra is not supported yet (SDK) or that I am doing something wrong.

[admin]

I'm surprise that it connects.  Please send me the log file.

 

 

[astroman133]

Is the camera in Manual mode?

[mooneyeagle]

If you say you are surprised that it connects then that means the Ra is not supported? How do I send you the log files?

[admin]

3 minutes ago, mooneyeagle said:

If you say you are surprised that it connects then that means the Ra is not supported? How do I send you the log files?

It means I did nothing special for the RA in the latest release to provide any support for the RA.  It also means that I need the log files to investigate.  I got the EOS-R to work so it is just a matter of time before I can make the Ra work... but I need the log files.

Follow the steps below to send the log files.

 

[mooneyeagle]

I had the camera in Bulb mode. Switched to M and it seems to be working just fine.  Thanks Astroman 133.  I am new to this and appreciate the help.

I can still send log files if you would like.

[admin]

19 minutes ago, mooneyeagle said:

I had the camera in Bulb mode. Switched to M and it seems to be working just fine.  Thanks Astroman 133.  I am new to this and appreciate the help.

I can still send log files if you would like.

Glad you got it to work.   No need to send the log files.

Regards,

[mooneyeagle]

Just for your info.  I took a break and came back and tried to connect my Canon Ra and it will not connect now.  It was working perfectly before.

Not sure what I did but I will try some things. 

[s3igell]

Make sure that you didn't somehow re-launch EOSUtility (check with TaskManager). 

EOSUtility defaults to Running in the Background and Launching on Reboot - there are Checkbox Settings within EOSUtility to defeat these Actions (but then you have to fully Terminate the App).

Also, ensure that you are Connected - DSLR to Laptop - via USB.  (Not sure if you might have connected via WiFi using EOSUtility.)

 

[mooneyeagle]

thanks for the reply.  I am a total Mac guy switching to a PC and i am so lost.  I assume if the CanonRa worked once it should do it again. I am confused about the EOSUtility. The task manager does not show anything is running. when i connect the camera the EOS Utility 3 dialog opens but there is no control over anything.

Don't laugh. I have no idea what to do next.

[astroman133]

BYE checks if the EOS Utility is running and if so it will not try to connect. I don't even have the EOS Utility installed on my PC so my instructions will be necessarily vague. 

I believe that there are configuration options in the EOS Utility menus that will allow you to disable starting the EOS Utility automatically when you plug the camera into the USB port.

There is also an configuration setting in BYE to skip checking for the EOS Utility. Skipping this check is OK as long as the EOS Utility is running, but not connected to the camera.

If you cannot figure that out then I would suggest uninstalling the EOS Utility. This would typically be done through the Programs & Features applet in the Control Panel.

I hope this helps.

[mooneyeagle]

thank you.  I will try that next.

[mooneyeagle]

I finally uninstalled BYE and EOS utilities. Reinstalled 3.1.18, drivers for camera and bingo. BYE recognizes the camera and I have complete control.  Thank you to everyone. Now all I need are clear skies.  Happy Holidays.