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Plate Solvers for BYE

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Good question.  Yes and no... sort of.  Let me explain.  

I have developed the module for both PlateSolve2 and PinPoint, not quite there yet for Astromtry.net ~ I just didn't have enough time to do it.  These modules are not yet integrated with the BYE/BYN source code.... but they do work, I use them regularly in another application I have developed for 10Micron mounts.

My biggest challenge now is where do I integrate such powerful tools in the BYE/BYN simple UI without scaring the novice astronomer.  One of my key design principal in BYE/BYN is to keep the UI simple an direct to the point.  That design principal has helped me over the years to keep the non essential feature request at bay... plate solving, IMO, is not one of those features and it needs to find its way in there eventually and sooner the better. 

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What about including it only in the Premium Edition as an add-on module.  Charge a few dollars $$$ for it.  Link it to the blank space to the right of the Settings icon.  I would purchase it.  

IMHO this would increase the marketability of BackyardEOS and Nikon.

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Yes that would be one place to put it.  As for charging for it... nope, nada, ziltch :)

One way I have been able to differentiate myself from other commercial package is my free upgrade path and UI simplicity.  I prefer to give free upgrades, including new features, big or small, as part of the free upgrade.  My business case is linear... free upgrade = more users = more user generated word of mouth = free marketing = more new net sales.

In other words I think free upgrades for new releases generates more revenue in the long by selling to new users rather than up selling new features to exiting and loyal customers.  I may be the odd ball here compared to other commercial package where they try to squeeze another $20 or so from their customers with upgrade cost.  I prefer to acknowledge  my customer's loyalty by saying thank you... here's a free upgrade.

I'm not saying I will always follow this path. Up until now I have been able to offer free upgrades and I have no plans to change this any time soon.

Thank you for the offer to pay a bit extra but a plat solving feature, I appreciate the gesture.

Regards,

 

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I've used Astrotortilla successfully in the past though it has on occasions locked up on me, so having plate-solving functionality built in to BYE, with the ability to adjust the telescope position would be a bonus, meaning one less program to run, competing for resources.  With regards to the UI, how about making the ASCOM panels configurable via Advanced Settings?  For example, I don't have a filter wheel or focuser so if the panels were optional I could de-select them and select panel(s) for plate-solving instead (excuse the crude mock-up attached).

 

Paul

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It has become rather common in AP Imaging to eschew any real Star Alignment effort, and instead use the Plate Solver Sync to do a "cheap-and-dirty" equivalent.

When Plate Solving works well, then this "Alternative to Star Alignment" works well...

(It's kind of like relying on the combo of PoleMaster and Aggressive PHD2 AutoGuiding as an alternative to a Accurate Polar Alignment...)

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I think that the ultimate answer is accurate and repeatable pointing beyond what slewing to a set of celestial coordinates accomplishes, regardless of the quality of the alignment.

To me it means being able to quickly and easily get back to the same field-of-view for multiple sessions so that when the images from those sessions are stacked that there are minimal pixels to crop to eliminate artifacts.

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On 8/13/2019 at 8:42 PM, astroman133 said:

I think that the ultimate answer is accurate and repeatable pointing beyond what slewing to a set of celestial coordinates accomplishes, regardless of the quality of the alignment.

To me it means being able to quickly and easily get back to the same field-of-view for multiple sessions so that when the images from those sessions are stacked that there are minimal pixels to crop to eliminate artifacts.

 

On 8/14/2019 at 7:46 PM, mdwetzel said:

Plate Solving used in a target centering or "center where I click in the image" operation that moves the mount iteratively, makes setting a composition fast and easy.

Mark W

Both these makes sense and it's in line with what I was thinking.  This will require a bit more leg work because this assumes that the coordinates of the target are known and currently there is no place in BYE/BYE to enter this data.  It's not complicated to do, it just needs a place to live in the simple UI as part of the plate solving workflow.

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